tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30194186.post5945810629771993330..comments2024-02-02T10:29:34.789+00:00Comments on A Conservative's blog: Hamas decree Alan Johnston to be releasedBenedict Whitehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01382732288664789210noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30194186.post-70019908439001620432007-06-18T00:34:00.000+01:002007-06-18T00:34:00.000+01:00Thanks, Verity.Another facet revealed.Thanks, Verity.<BR/>Another facet revealed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30194186.post-72815249226985426532007-06-17T16:03:00.000+01:002007-06-17T16:03:00.000+01:00In any event, I don't like Alan Johnson because he...In any event, I don't like Alan Johnson because he sucked up to the Arabs and denigrated Israel. <BR/><BR/>Peter Hitchens (in The Mail on Sunday) has been in Israel and has done an excellent, well-researched piece on the possible decline of that country. It made sad reading and I hope it doesn't come to pass.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30194186.post-5681937257267981392007-06-17T14:31:00.000+01:002007-06-17T14:31:00.000+01:00Fiddling while Rome burns, I'm afraid, Erik. It c...Fiddling while Rome burns, I'm afraid, Erik. It comes into force in Britain next Friday.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30194186.post-71173220961482834512007-06-17T13:11:00.000+01:002007-06-17T13:11:00.000+01:00Verity, I've found thislinkWhich seems to say it's...Verity, I've found this<BR/><A HREF="http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200607/cmselect/cmeuleg/41ix/41ix.pdf" REL="nofollow">link</A><BR/>Which seems to say it's still under Eurabian discussion.<BR/><BR/>Legal base<BR/>—<BR/>Documents originated<BR/>19 December 2006<BR/>Deposited in Parliament<BR/>4 January 2007<BR/>Department<BR/>HM Treasury<BR/>Basis of consideration:-<BR/>Three EMs of 16 January 2007<BR/><BR/>Previous Committee Report:-<BR/>None<BR/><BR/>To be discussed in Council:-<BR/>27 March 2007<BR/><BR/>Committee’s assessment:-<BR/>Politically important<BR/><BR/>Committee’s decision:-<BR/>For debate in European Standing Committee<BR/><BR/>However it does state that HMG already operates an effective exit tax on unrealised capital gains at the time of exit. The question is:-<BR/>Treatment of ISAS, pension rights, equity portfolios, freehold interests, trusts, etc, etc.<BR/>As you say, make life difficult for asseted achievers and corporations to vote with their feet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30194186.post-55269261289275375672007-06-17T12:16:00.000+01:002007-06-17T12:16:00.000+01:00Verity, I've tooled around a few words and come up...Verity, I've tooled around a few words and come up with this link<BR/><A HREF="http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=MEMO/06/499&format=HTML&aged=0&language=EN&guiLanguage=fr" REL="nofollow">here</A><BR/>This part may be relevant to your previous point:-<BR/><BR/>What are exit taxes?<BR/>Exit taxes are taxes which Member States levy on accrued but as yet unrealised capital gains when individual or corporate taxpayers transfer their residence to another State or when corporate taxpayers transfer individual assets from their head office to a permanent establishment situated in an another State (or vice versa).<BR/><BR/>Why do Member States levy exit taxes?<BR/><BR/>Member States have different reasons for levying exit taxes. Some Member States levy them to counteract specific types of tax avoidance and tax-induced (temporary) emigrations. For other Member States exit taxes are a means of ensuring that they are able to tax any income which has accrued while taxpayers were resident in their territory. Frequently, national exit tax provisions are also based on a combination of these reasons.<BR/><BR/>Is there no scope for immediate taxation at the moment of exit?<BR/><BR/>The European Court of Justice has ruled that immediate taxation at the moment of exit of accrued but as yet unrealised capital gains is not possible if there would be no similar taxation in comparable domestic situations. It follows from ECJ case-law that Member States will have to defer collection of their taxes until the moment of actual realisation of the capital gains, and that such deferral may not be subject to restrictive conditions such as the requirement of a bank guarantee or the appointment of a fiscal representative.<BR/><BR/>Member States may, however, provide taxpayers with the option to renounce the deferred collection of tax and to choose to pay the tax at the moment of transfer. Such an option must however be truly voluntary and even-handed.<BR/><BR/>Can you give some examples of existing mismatches between different national rules and proposed co-ordinated solutions?<BR/><BR/>With respect to individual taxpayers, a mismatch between different national provisions for example arises if the exit State calculates the capital gain at the moment of exit, and collects the tax at the moment of actual disposal, and the new State of residence taxes the whole capital gain from acquisition up to the actual disposal. This causes double taxation of the value increase from acquisition to the moment of exit. The Communication suggests that such double taxation can be eliminated either by crediting taxes levied in the other Member State or by dividing the taxing rights on the relevant assets according to the period that the taxpayer was resident in each of the Member States.<BR/><BR/>With respect to corporate taxpayers mismatches arise from differences in valuation methods as regards transferred assets. A number of EU Member States allow assets to be transferred to a permanent establishment in another EU Member State at book value. These EU Member States choose not to exercise their taxing rights on the difference between the book value and the market value of the assets at the time of transfer. Generally, these EU Member States also value assets transferred to a permanent establishment in their country at book value. Other EU Member States seek to exercise their taxing rights on the difference between the book value and the market value of the assets at the moment of transfer. In practice, these differences between valuation at book value and market value can result in double taxation or unintended non-taxation of capital gains. The Communication examines different options to overcome such obstacles, ranging from a transfer at market value with a step-up in the receiving Member State to an approach based on book value continuation.<BR/><BR/><I><B>The statement doesn't state whether this is current law, or proposed law, do you have an idea on this?</B></I><BR/>Many thanks for your input.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30194186.post-66836662799291794142007-06-17T10:15:00.000+01:002007-06-17T10:15:00.000+01:00Benedict,take look at this court case, to get an i...Benedict,take look at this court case, to get an idea of the tentacles of terrorism. <A HREF="http://www.ambushlaw.com/documents/O'Neill_Iraq_Second_Amended_Complaint.pdf" REL="nofollow">Yeah, 120 pages, life's a bitch <:-)</A><BR/>The funding is interesting.<BR/>I wonder what moves our "stealth tax maestro" has made against funding parties, given his high profile shouting?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30194186.post-18291839915351636072007-06-17T09:40:00.000+01:002007-06-17T09:40:00.000+01:00Benedict,here is a list of Taleban suspectsI belie...Benedict,<BR/><A HREF="http://www.un.org/Docs/sc/committees/1267/pdflist.pdf" REL="nofollow">here is a list of Taleban suspects</A><BR/>I believe it shows how truly deficient our intel is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30194186.post-931636847011328492007-06-17T08:58:00.000+01:002007-06-17T08:58:00.000+01:00Erik, I note your comments on what information may...<I>Erik, I note your comments on what information <B>may or may not be</B> in the preventative security organisation that <B>may have just been captured.</B> I certainly hope that is not the case.</I><BR/>Benedict, the bold emphasis above is mine.<BR/>It really rankles when you appear to doubt every word I say.<BR/>Can't you understand that there are seasoned, well connected surfers out here?<BR/>If you're quick, you'll catch <A HREF="http://tammybruce.com/war_on_radical_islam/" REL="nofollow">this</A> and also take a look at <A HREF="http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=25878&only&rsssmall" REL="nofollow">this</A> and wear filters for<A HREF="http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=25868_Video-_A_Lynching_in_Gaza&only" REL="nofollow">this spectacle</A>.<BR/>There are various others, so does that dispel your doubts?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30194186.post-85222566647630456352007-06-17T02:24:00.000+01:002007-06-17T02:24:00.000+01:00Benedict, thanks, but I'll have to ignore a lot of...Benedict, thanks, but I'll have to ignore a lot of what you post as possibly "wingnut". Dismissing the comments of people who may be informed is a boss way of losing commenters.<BR/><BR/>I've followed the ME for several years, at an older age than eight, which I believe is what you were when your parents moved away?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30194186.post-90795049011723453792007-06-17T01:17:00.000+01:002007-06-17T01:17:00.000+01:00Verity I am going to ignore quite a few of your mo...Verity I am going to ignore quite a few of your more wingnut comments.<BR/><BR/>As Erik has linked to, Alan Johnston has been kidnapped by the Durmush clan, that is a clan as in a family clan.<BR/><BR/>I read it first in a Haaretz article some time ago.<BR/><BR/>There is no religious angle to it, they are out to gain some influence, as I understand it they have between none and very little. Everyone knows who they are, and that they hold him, the only question is where. <BR/><BR/>What Hamas have clearly signalled is that they can take on far bigger fry that the Durmush clan, so they better play ball.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Erik, I note your comments on what information may or may not be in the preventative security organisation that may have just been captured. I certainly hope that is not the case.<BR/><BR/>However do you have a source for Iranian revolutionary guards training Hamas in Kartoum?Benedict Whitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382732288664789210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30194186.post-41624272039327978562007-06-16T23:47:00.000+01:002007-06-16T23:47:00.000+01:00With reference to the Gaza coup by Hamas, Sami Abu...With reference to the Gaza coup by Hamas, <B>Sami Abu Zuhairi,</B> who issued the threat to Fatah on the West Bank following Fatah attacks on Hamas operatives on the West bank, headed a group of Hamas intelligence and terrorist officers who trained near Khartoum, especially for the Gaza coup, under Iranian Revolutionary Guards instructors, now heads the intelligence team urgently sifting through the archives captured in the offices of Palestinian Authority security services. He also led the looting of Yasser Arafat’s villa in Gaza Saturday in search of incriminating materials against Fatah and Israeli leaders in the records of the 12 years Arafat and top PLO leaders spent in Tunis from 1982-1994.<BR/><B>Sami Abu Zuhairi,</B> is a very senior AQ operative!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30194186.post-44610994922658693612007-06-16T21:31:00.000+01:002007-06-16T21:31:00.000+01:00Yes, it's EU-wide. I'm surprised Brown's gone alo...Yes, it's EU-wide. I'm surprised Brown's gone along with this - unless he didn't know; something else that Tony stitched up behind his back - as he is such a control freak he is not going to relinquish his hold on the UK economy.<BR/><BR/>I think it probably really is to control the movement of drug/terrorism money. <BR/><BR/>It's the UK the hemhorraging people and that will eventually have to staunch the flow of money leaving with the achievers who are headed off for pastures new. I still think these controls, for this reason, will come in. <BR/><BR/>I'm sorry for getting derailed, Benedict. I am still interested in my question: is this an actual clan marauding for money, or terrorists?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30194186.post-6879323035548349092007-06-16T21:14:00.000+01:002007-06-16T21:14:00.000+01:00Verity, it's a eurabian law, relating to people le...Verity, it's a eurabian law, relating to people leaving Eurabia, not just UK<BR/><A HREF="http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/resources/documents/customs/customs_controls/cash_controls/declaration_form_de_en.pdf" REL="nofollow">See here, although HMG seem to have snook it through unannounced. (relatively!)</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30194186.post-73276048044268407072007-06-16T20:24:00.000+01:002007-06-16T20:24:00.000+01:00Erik, what came from Eurabia sources, btw?The memo...Erik, what came from Eurabia sources, btw?<BR/><BR/>The memory of the currency restrictions in Britain came from having heard my parents talking about it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30194186.post-63247684932790107122007-06-16T20:12:00.000+01:002007-06-16T20:12:00.000+01:00My God, that was quick! I hope they didn't get th...My God, that was quick! I hope they didn't get the idea from my post! I mean, they're bringing it in at the end of next week? With no warning? So no one has time to make alternate arrangements And, of course, it's only to prevent money laundering and drug dealers from profitting from their crimes.<BR/><BR/>Uh-huh.<BR/><BR/>But when I wrote about it, I was thinking it would be at least four or five years ...<BR/><BR/>Are they going to stop you taking money out of a cash machine overseas?<BR/><BR/>The state gains an ever-tighter stranglehold round the necks of the citizens.<BR/><BR/>I'm voting UKIP at the next election. Provided I haven't been disenfranchised by some bizarre new law by then.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30194186.post-34730403699677997592007-06-16T19:14:00.000+01:002007-06-16T19:14:00.000+01:00Verity, you recently spoke of memory of limit of 5...Verity, you recently spoke of memory of limit of 50 pound max to take out of UK, and predicted a return of some sort of restriction.<BR/>I salute you, but it came from Eurabia sources.<BR/><A HREF="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/06/16/ncurrency116.xml" REL="nofollow">here</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30194186.post-7215619752830174952007-06-16T19:12:00.000+01:002007-06-16T19:12:00.000+01:00Nancy - You surely do not think that a few people,...Nancy - You surely do not think that a few people, or a few thousand people, could have defeated Tony Blair and his destruction of the infrastructure, the government, the constitution and the civil society of Britain? <BR/><BR/>Blair's thugs were handing out thought crime ASBOs for anyone who spoke against the Little Father. Alastair Campbell didn't allow the newspapers to have opinions or print a word of contradiction to Blair. The letters editors - until the advent a couple of years ago of Comments sections - didn't print letters that were opposed to the Blair regime. <BR/><BR/>If the mighty organs of Fleet Street were too timid to hold Blair to account, how do you suggest that the people who have left could have "fixed it".<BR/><BR/>This is the same kind of thinking as "What if they gave a war and nobody came?". In total contradiction to the reality on the ground.<BR/><BR/>You want people to walk round the streets carrying "Down with Blair" signs? What good would that do, even were he not, at long last, leaving? The Leader of the Opposition has declared himself the heir to Blair. <BR/><BR/>In other words, there's no leadership and Britain's bent on suicide. The people are weak. They've allowed themselves to be robbed of their sovereignty and have accepted Big Government as their boss. In a mere 10 years.<BR/><BR/>What have you done to "fit it", Nancy?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30194186.post-59663784585728534292007-06-16T18:17:00.000+01:002007-06-16T18:17:00.000+01:00So go home and fix it. I get so tired of people wh...So go home and fix it. I get so tired of people who leave their countries and whine about them from a safe distance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30194186.post-859716290365885832007-06-16T17:45:00.000+01:002007-06-16T17:45:00.000+01:00Benedict (please don't yawn with your mouth open; ...Benedict (please don't yawn with your mouth open; your mother told you it was rude), when you say "clan", do you mean clan or a general grouping of malfeasants?<BR/><BR/>This is a genuine question.<BR/><BR/>My impression was it was generally accepted that it had been Hamas,but I confess that I stopped reading about it after a couple of days because the man is so anti-Israel and pro-terrorist that I don't care about his future.<BR/><BR/>But are you saying this kidnapping had no religious connotations and was simply done by a gang? Has there been a ransome demand? Otherwise, why,if they were a gang, would they kidnap someone?<BR/><BR/>Erik - I agree with you that allowing Britain to become overrun with primitives and then forcing the British to give up tax money to house and feed them, and give up their countryside to build houses for them, and give up their religious festivals so as not to "offend" them has been utterly deliberate.<BR/><BR/>The first time I saw Tony Blair on TV, I had a sense of terrible evil surrounding him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30194186.post-41450879890798340062007-06-16T17:37:00.000+01:002007-06-16T17:37:00.000+01:00As long as cretinous politicians entertain terrori...As long as cretinous politicians entertain terrorists and refuse to research their backgrounds, nowhere on the planet will be safe from terrorist predations.<BR/>Western gov'ments have a monopoly of power within their boundaries. It's called policing by consent.<BR/>Consent by the public to give up the right to carry arms, in return for the gov't undertaking to carry out successful defence of the realm in general, and police defence of the public against "crime" in particular. <BR/>It is called a "trusting society", and remains a feature of western democracies, or has done until lately. Populations expect treatment by the state to be homogeneous, wherever in the state it is applied for. Contrast with tribal, or clan societies in the ME, where the "family, clan, tribe, etc" is the source of refuge, or arbiter of justice, often unfairly, rather than the "state".<BR/>This Gov't has failed abjectly on both counts to defend its population of indegenes, some would say, given the degree of failure, and the evidence, by design.<BR/>There comes a point in the decline and failure of all societies, when the prevailing gov't is seen by the remaining indigenes as being the enemy of the people it allegedly works for, and is charged with the protection of. Society then reverts to "family, clan, tribe, etc" for justice. We witness this daily with "honour killings" etc, by peoples from "non trusting societies".<BR/><BR/>I frequently ponder where, on this declining line on a graph of societal fragmentation, we currently sit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30194186.post-43517426070495607552007-06-16T17:06:00.000+01:002007-06-16T17:06:00.000+01:00Benedict, What makes you think Hamas kidnapped Ala...Benedict, <I><B>What makes you think Hamas kidnapped Alan Johnston? Or indeed Fatah?</B></I><BR/><BR/>I told you who kidnapped AJ, <A HREF="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=30194186&postID=4744876983500527957" REL="nofollow">here on your blog.</A><BR/>Perhaps you missed it.<BR/>Post No, 1Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30194186.post-67322436682687947222007-06-16T16:32:00.000+01:002007-06-16T16:32:00.000+01:00benedict."As for you last comment, it is not on to...benedict.<BR/><I><B>"As for you last comment, it is not on topic here, it would be here:<BR/>http://aconservatives.blogspot.com/2007/06/real-legacy-of-two-world-wars.html<BR/><BR/>If you post it there I will look at it.</B></I><BR/><BR/>It is already there Benedict, and has been since the 12th june.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30194186.post-12905443218581190552007-06-16T16:24:00.000+01:002007-06-16T16:24:00.000+01:00Egyptian Intel,- cough, splutter, -don't make me l...Egyptian Intel,- cough, splutter, -don't make me laugh.<BR/>They are part of the problem.<BR/>They only report insignificant details to appear to be following agreements.<BR/>Literally thousands of tonnes of contraband comes through those tunnels, and other routes, unchallenged.<BR/>Now let me see, how many rockets have landed in Sderot in the last few months?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30194186.post-49182362272234911682007-06-16T15:56:00.000+01:002007-06-16T15:56:00.000+01:00Verity, Yawn, What makes you think Hamas kidnapped...Verity, Yawn, <BR/><BR/>What makes you think Hamas kidnapped Alan Johnston? Or indeed Fatah?<BR/><BR/>My understanding is that it is a clan who have no particular political connection, but are involved in criminality.Benedict Whitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382732288664789210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30194186.post-86584263050387197012007-06-16T14:46:00.000+01:002007-06-16T14:46:00.000+01:00I don't care about Alan Johnson. He sucked up to ...I don't care about Alan Johnson. He sucked up to Hamas. He wrote against Israel. He is on the side of the terrorists, and I imagine he thought he would be safe from harm from them. Then they went and kidnapped him and threatened to murder him. How unfair! He as on their side! He reported everything from their point of view and trashed Israel for defending itself.<BR/><BR/>He forgot the one vital fact that anyone dealing with islamics needs to bear in mind at all times. He is an infidel. That means his life is worth nothing, no matter how nicely he sucked up.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps he will have learned his lesson. More likely, he will now have developed Stockholm syndrome (which he actually had even before he got captured) and think his kidnappers and abusers of his human rights are stand-up dudes.<BR/><BR/>He should be more careful in choosing his "friends" in future.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com