tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30194186.post116212984955386995..comments2024-02-02T10:29:34.789+00:00Comments on A Conservative's blog: Carbon Dioxide emissions and the environmentBenedict Whitehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01382732288664789210noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30194186.post-62557103340921846292006-10-30T20:14:00.000+00:002006-10-30T20:14:00.000+00:00Timothy, many thanks for your comments. I do agree...Timothy, many thanks for your comments. I do agree with you about issues with developing countries and famine. However I don't agree that it has to be that way with bio fuels.<br /><br />For a start your position seems to assume that there is some shortage of farming land. I don't think there is. The Ukraine is capable of feeding itself and the rest of Europe to the West of it. Mush of the former Soviet Union has been poorly farmed but even worse the USSR's ability to get stuf from field to market was appalling.<br /><br />Also these is much scope I feel for building solar powered water dislitation plants to irrigate either desert or recently new desert. That would have the advantage of providing both jobs, and food where there is currently much immigration preasure, as well as tying vaste amounts of carbon up in the production cycle.<br /><br />That said you talk about bio energy from waste crop products, which is true, but you can collect it from the farm and produce gas, and from the end user and divert it from land fill and also produce gas. <br /><br />Both ways also tend to produce good fertalizer depending on what temperature you run the bio digesters at.Benedict Whitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382732288664789210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30194186.post-33260069138294856912006-10-30T13:24:00.000+00:002006-10-30T13:24:00.000+00:00There's a slight problem with widespread use of bi...There's a <i>slight</i> problem with widespread use of biofuels. We need the land in order to grow food crops. In a market economy, supply adjusts to follow the money. Clearly, the rich, with their cars, will be able to pay a lot more than the poor.<br /><br />This sort of effect has been observed in most famines. Food has been available, it's just that subsistence farmers have never had the money to pay for it. Consequently, some charities now hand out cash in famine areas to encourage the market supply of food [rather than undermine the local food markets by handing out free food].<br /><br />However, if you create a demand for fuel crops, backed by cash-rich middle class demand [in developing countries as well as Western countries], then land will be turned over to grow biofuels, by fair means or foul, and poor people will starve.<br /><br />Biofuels can make a contribution - they can be made from some of the waste byproducts of food crops for example - but they aren't even a stopgap solution.<br /><br />I agree about the fallacy of building masses of new "green" cars. We need to find more efficient ways of living that:<br /><br />1. Don't involve travelling so much. It's a waste of time as well as carbon.<br /><br />2. Make travel more efficient. Why do people waste so much effort driving themselves? Why not travel as part of a group with someone else taking care of the driving? More public transport is unfashionably part of the solution.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com